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Gator Game Day: Goin' To Alabama ("...with an achin', in my heart...")

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Quick read of the Florida near-drive, literally "read" sometime after-the-fact: Run working--so they switch to the pass--and after several poor efforts JD promptly overthrows an open receiver and gets a pick? My friends, we are the proverbial "talented squad, unevenly coached". Is there SOMEONE out there who can do something with clearly decent talent?--BETTER than decent, at least everywhere but WR and QB...OK, "can do anything with talent AND go out, find some good ones at those positions, and convince them to come play for him"?
Prediction, admittedly with strange cracked-lens view of game so far: We've had our vchance(s) to take control, put them on their heels and take the crowd out of it, and we've blown it, basically. Went better than we could have hoped in many ways, but we gave them too much and didn't get enough ourselves. Now it sounds that it's THEM who are establishing control, when we blew our last chance to do so with that last JD overthrow/interception. That's who Jeff Drisklel IS. An illusion of potential.
Phone tells me fumble, still rolling around. NOT saying who got it. Wtf??? STILL no word. Just that ball on ground, "rolling free"...Gators have it? Apparently so. One MORE chance. If they don't just ram it down their throats now, then even Roper is a blind fool. I'm sorry.
 

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Going by what I'm READING of play (which tho' not by choice, IS an interesting, "step back" perspective that kind of makes it less emotional), it is BOTH sides of the ball where we are coaching-defficient. Given what we have (at RB) and DON'T have (at QB), it strikes me that our OC is calling the EXACT wrong plays at the EXACT wrong time, in the EXACT wrong sequences. Our Head Coach/"offensive wizard" isn't getting "outcoached" as much as "dumb-coaching" his guys right out of any efficiency or continuity. The PLAYERS have been doing backflips and contortions giving the team a chance, positions to work from, but coaching has let them down at every turn. That and weakness at the whole pass-catch thing. We don't do that good, duhhh...
 

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(I actually called a "break" I prob normally wouldn't have called here, ostensibly to get some things ironed out--but normally I work thru' this sorta thing. I really need to bear down here and get things sorted, then finish up. Last set-up, just distracted, obviously...Excuse me for awhile--guess ut could be til the 2nd half, way things go)
 

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AW F*CK--Did we just FUMBLE IT AWAY ourselves deep? THat'll do it. Screw this team, screw this coaching staff--we are poorly coached, and we just handed them the lead in a series of bone-headed plays late in the half. Only the actual score, however it actually happens (but it'll probably be with our help, way its going), remains to be seen. Hearing it is bad enough--I don't wanna watch, I don't think. Y'all may not hear from me again til MUCVH later, guys. We WERE still in this one, almost in spite of ourselves, thanks top good players and a less-than-spectacular Tide team, NOT to coaching IN ANY WAY. I'm not staying around for our escorting them to the TD, nor the long slide that'll be our painful-to-watch performance the rest of the way. I don't care about the final score--we had every chance to take this one, a decent team, let alone a really good one (there is no "greatness" out there, collectively or individually), would have gotten the lead, taken control, be up at LEAST a coupla scores and be wearing them down with our trio of running backs by now. That "ubforced "fumble back" by Driskel was IT here: Instead of US taking it in and being up a TD at the half at least, we let THEM have it instead--sounds like we HELPED them down the field. Glad I don't have to hear the bs the announcers are spewing trying to make this out a "great back and forth battle", anyway. Mg, you got it right: QB, WR, HC. Gotta make the change.
 

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...In fact, I feel BAD for those of you who feel compelled to watch the rest of this. There is NO WAY we survive the mistakes and reverses we've surrendered here. JB will continue to overthrow. When he gets it there, everyone but Robinson will drop the ball (is that why we're not throwing to him? I mean, don't wanna be like a successful team, something like Alabama, throwing to your best receiver by far, do we?). Meanwhile, BOTH Coaching staffs, led by HC and OC, have their heads up their asses, far as I can determine. They are NOT better than us, all things considered. WE are just poorly coached. Good luck, Gators. I may check in later, but I have work to finish here--and I'll be in no hurry to either see, or talk any further about, this game OR this team for the next while. I'm sorry I got involved, was even ABLE to follow, this game as it is.
 
We need a few more players in the secondary. We have elite WR's, we need a QB stat.

Our pass coverage is raggedy today.

Treon Harris is needed.
 

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The guys on the SEC Net say that JD is what they thought he was, a player who is too inconsistent to win games against good teams. No argument here.
 

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We need a few more players in the secondary. We have elite WR's, we need a QB stat.

Our pass coverage is raggedy today.

Treon Harris is needed.
Right on all counts, clearly. Especially that last part, Dale. This team is going nowhere anyway--the best thing for the PROGRAM now is to get Treon in there, let him begin to prepare for his future, OUR future with him at signal caller--NEXT season. But that'll be with a new coach, and this one is still "coaching for his job", coaching for wins NOW. Damn shame. Good guy , Will Muschamp. Would have loved to have made him a permanent part of the Gator family, the "right kind of guy" except for one thing: He just wasn't ready to do the job here. Same goes for Roper, I'm afraid. Closer to being ready for HIS responsibilities, maybe could have made it the rest of the way if the D had been more up to the task of "keeping it close", but HC and OC have been fully exposed now. TERRIBLE job by both here today--and obviously in days and prep leading up to it.
I apologize for being out-of-sync with all of you still watching the game...Won't blaming you for skipping all this impatiently, and hope maybe you'll then come back to it later. I'm not even watching, not even here on my phone now that I have the means and time. I'm in a strangely calm frame-of-mind, certain of the "state of the program" even if somewhat removed from the actual performance of our team this week or the specific score right now. We just finished up here and I am posting this from my phone, sitting on chair in the dark and marshaling my thoughts. Unless I'm completely wrong and am missing/have missed a thrillingly dramatic reversal-of-fortune, complete with a total turn to dazzling competence on the part of Driskel and everyone else in the 2nd half, I feel I'm right in assuming I've seen enough to make the following declarations.
There is no excuse for this team getting WORSE between last week and now. I really think the jury is in now: This Coach (and staff as currently comprised and led) will NEVER be anything more than "talented-but-uneven", capable of having big days against over-matched opponents but seldom coming through against "the big boys"--of which we will never be a member as long as they are in charge. We have enough talent at enough positions that a really GOOD Coach could, should be winning more than its share of big games now, and cruising against the rest. With a really good QB in there and a few holes filled, I'm convinced with the right HC we could be world-beaters. And they should have been filled by now: this WR-thing for eg has gone on the whole time Muschamp has been here...when it comes to QBs and WRs, this Coach and staff have beaten the odds in how often and consistently they have gotten it WRONG! I know there may be some of you, GE'rs whose opinions I respect and value, who may still think it's not this and/or that coach's fault, that there are other factors at work here and other considerations to be taken into account, but to me it's a hard but inescapable truth: The ONLY way to greatness from here now is to move fast and hard, get someone with real talent and vision in here while we DO still have most of the pieces either hitting their prime or ready and capable of doing so, the very kind of person who can bring in and fill the few (albeit crucial) gaps somehow and pull things together even as he begins to prepare a foundation for a longer range plan, one that more reflects his own ideas and philosophy. The question of course is, WHO IS THAT GUY? Is he even out there now, someone who we can get--and can he be "gotten"? I don't know. But I know we better try.
I'm not even angry at Muschamp anymore. I see him as a sad and unfortunate "near-miss". As I say, I like the guy; he just didn't get it done, and isn't gonna get it done here. Now, I WILL be angry at J. Foley if he doesn't make the hard but necessary decision, doesn't equivocate, and gets after this NOW. Well, real soon. He "took a shot" with Muschamp, a little more of a "gamble" maybe than was warranted, but it coulda worked, I think damn near did--but "patience" isn't the answer any longer. Yeah, it risks chaos making that change again now--but "the safety of probably being pretty good NEXT year" just shouldn't BE an option for us. The cupboard isn't bare, by any means. I don't claim to know who "the right guy" is, but we get him in here, it might well surprise folks how quick we are headed in the right direction, even "back to being Florida".
 

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