Are the Florida gators the new"u-Thug"?

[Yellowhammer]

Your other posts did not reflect that this was your issue. You went from saying "Florida is worse than Alabama with its 24 arrests" to "the question is not who is worse".

I pointed out the differences because someone here said I didn't have room to talk because of Alabama's problems.

We don't control the media. The schools don't control the media. The schools can choose to be more open to the media, but here in the information age it is rather difficult to control the flow of negative publicity. UF has decided to be more open in the past few years, but that does not mean the media would not get wind of arrests through some other means.

My beef is with the media, not Florida.

I can remember a time when it was the other way around. I can remember times when the media and the public loved Florida, or loved Alabama or loved Auburn, or loved this school or that one.

Again that is my point, why should they be able to affect public perception based on who the flavor of the month is?

What do you think this is, a socialist country?

Nope, but I do think ESPN is the Dictator of college football.

 

[MahxFahn]

media=papers, magazines, tv, radio, blogs
media=blogs
bleacherreport=blogs
yellowhammer=franklin
franklin=blogs
franklin/yellowhammer=media

 

[Leakfan12]

At least Florida players don't do something stupid before a big bowl game like say LT Andre Smith talking to an agent before the Sugar Bowl. How did that work out for Bama?

 

[Escambia94]

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My beef is with the media, not Florida.
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Nope, but I do think ESPN is the Dictator of college football.

It sounds like we are in agreement.

Unfortunately for me, I have to get my sports from ESPN when I am deployed overseas (if we get American TV), so I am stuck with them.

 

[thefamouscbc]

You guys are so welcoming. LOL

I love the reports Yellowhammer. At least Kiffin is keeping our guys out of trouble so far.

Found with AKs? Holy crap. Must be gang wars going on between FSU and Florida's football teams. Who is the crips and who the bloods? HAHAHAHAHA

25 arrests in four years. :gun_bandana:

 

[leakbrewergator]

blah blah blah blah blah blah

Fixed it for you.

 

[O-town Gator]

You guys are so welcoming. LOL

I love the reports Yellowhammer. At least Kiffin is keeping our guys out of trouble so far.

Found with AKs? Holy crap. Must be gang wars going on between FSU and Florida's football teams. Who is the crips and who the bloods? HAHAHAHAHA

25 arrests in four years. :gun_bandana:

Mind your own business, Vol troll.

 

[O-town Gator]

My beef is with the media, not Florida.

And WHY do you feel the media needs to know EVERYTHING? The media meddles too much, overinflates too many situations and creates controversy on purpose - they know that they can't capture an audience by simply doing their job; thus they resort to despicable tactics, such as publishing innuendo or distorting facts to their own satisfaction just to earn a paycheck or irritate people with full intent to do so.

Journalism in recent years has declined into a very dishonorable profession thanks to disreputable reporters, readily available and transmittable communication thanks to the Internet and other wireless technology, the paparazzi, and just plain old-fashioned greed.

If Florida decides to handle an issue within the organization and doesn't release a statement to the press, then that's their business as far as I'm concerned. What the media doesn't know won't hurt them, and if it does, too damn bad.

And if you think Florida's getting favorable treatment by the media, you're sadly mistaken. Coming off another National Championship and judging by the success of the Meyer era at UF to-date, it seems as though the media are waiting like buzzards eyeing a dead carcass to jump all over Gator football at the least little nuance of negativity - that, or some idiot "source" who doesn't have the cajones to identify himself/herself will start a dumbass rumor over something unsubstantiated or totally false to begin with.

All said Franklin, I believe that your main intent was also to elicit negative backlash from the Florida fanbase, based on the title and text of your blog post, as opposed to a rant to be directed towards the media.

You need not question the intelligence of this community; what we don't like are rival fans who try and convince Florida fans that they know more about Gator football than we know ourselves. Sure we have issues with our football program, but then again so do many other teams - within the SEC, we don't live in a perfect world.

 

[J-ville Gator]

I am beginning to question the intelligence of this group. The question is NOT who is the worst, or the best as far as off the field problems are concerned.

This is why I'm seriously convinced that you suffer schizophrenia (or dementia praecox). You started a thread with the topic "new thug u", yet you are now denying that is your original intent AND, questioning the "intelligence" of the ones who are asking you for clarification. Do me a favor and look up "Dementia Preacox". I would prescribe you a Pharmacotherapy Rx of Lidone and/or Prolixin Decanoate for you if you visited me...Seriously.

The question is why does the national media focus on some schools and passover others programs miscues?

Pick a topic and stick with it.

Here's my theory: I think reporters may be writing and reporting the stories but editors and program directors bury them. They are not doing this in some big plot to harm Alabama or protect Florida, they are doing it because fans love to hate Alabama and love to love Florida.

This is what I call Paranoid Schizophrenia. This can be handled two ways. One would be Psycotherapy (by Transactiona Analysis and Rational-emotive Therapy) and by Pharmacotherapy (I suggested two Rx above)

It could also be that reporters have learned, if I take this story to my boss he is going to bury it, but he loves negative stuff on Tennessee.

O.K. Now you're a Journalism Major? For whom do you work for (which media outlet)? Bleacher Report is not a credible (nor paying) source. Your "take this story to my boss" claim is why you seriously need to seek PROFESSIONAL help. Both YOU, myself and everyone reading this thread KNOW you don't work for a media oulet. That if just your Delusions of Grandeur.

So they do it for their ratings. They do it to keep their customers happy. They do it to be successful reporters.

"THEY"? You just stated above that "if I take this story to my boss, he is going to bury it". You definitly suffer from Paranoia Schizophrenia. It's honestly not a funny subject. You do need some type of professional help.

I can just see the wheels turning in the editors/program directors mind, thinking if we run this negative story about Florida our viewers will get mad and stop watching, but if we run the negative story on Alabama they will call their buddies and tell them to tune in.

Now you're BACK to being a Journalist? It's worse than I thought. Sir, honestly get some help. In my proffesional opinion, you're aren't aware from time to time, the point you are trying to make.

It's a business decision and IT SHOUND NOT BE!

Hello? What do you think the Media is in business for? The Media IS a business

It should be reported or not reported on an equal basis...

Let me know which State you reside in and I can give you a list of Clinics that are close by.

 

[J-ville Gator]

I am beginning to question the intelligence of this group. The question is NOT who is the worst, or the best as far as off the field problems are concerned.

The question is why does the national media focus on some schools and passover others programs miscues?

Here's my theory: I think reporters may be writing and reporting the stories but editors and program directors bury them. They are not doing this in some big plot to harm Alabama or protect Florida, they are doing it because fans love to hate Alabama and love to love Florida.

It could also be that reporters have learned, if I take this story to my boss he is going to bury it, but he loves negative stuff on Tennessee.

So they do it for their ratings. They do it to keep their customers happy. They do it to be successful reporters.

I can just see the wheels turning in the editors/program directors mind, thinking if we run this negative story about Florida our viewers will get mad and stop watching, but if we run the negative story on Alabama they will call their buddies and tell them to tune in.

It's a business decision and IT SHOUND NOT BE!

It should be reported or not reported on an equal basis...

You guys are so welcoming. LOL

I love the reports Yellowhammer. At least Kiffin is keeping our guys out of trouble so far.

Found with AKs? Holy crap. Must be gang wars going on between FSU and Florida's football teams. Who is the crips and who the bloods? HAHAHAHAHA

25 arrests in four years. :gun_bandana:

You aren't even of importance. I would honestly like to sit down with your coach and see what Psychoanalyisis I come away with. He would keep me in business.

 

[O-town Gator]

Here's my theory: I think reporters may be writing and reporting the stories but editors and program directors bury them. They are not doing this in some big plot to harm Alabama or protect Florida, they are doing it because fans love to hate Alabama and love to love Florida.

On the contrary, Franklin - your statement is FAR from the truth. Open your eyes and surf the web, or spend time in the state of Florida - you'll see PLENTY of Gator-haters out there in full force. For crying out loud, there's a board for those who can't stand UF sports, and now there's a Facebook page trying to attract as many of the anti-UF crowd as they can get.

Surf Gator fansites and you'll see the trolls - hey, we even have them here.

Don't delude yourself.

 

[MahxFahn]

franklin, you have been a comedic repast for me since I first became aware of you. Your latest morass has helped to fill a void and I thank you for that. Yet I feel compelled to warn you that to ignore J-ville's diagnosis at your peril.
Your rant about the media, as incoherent as it was clouds the fact that your blog and the others on br are part of that same behemoth.
Here is an excerpt from an email that originated at br, touting a newfound partner, media giant cbssorts.........

We’re thrilled to announce an exciting new initiative being brought to you by CBSSports.com and BleacherReport.com. The CBSSports.com NFL Correspondent Network is a unique opportunity whereby aspiring sports journalists will be given the opportunity to provide in-depth coverage of NFL teams as fully credentialed members of the press corps.
This blending of traditional journalism with sports citizen reporting is totally unprecedented—especially on this scale.

"sports citizen reporting"? I guess that's what you are. The real sports reporters are bemoaning the grouping of the likes of you with them.
Yet I concur w/ J-ville on this....

Both YOU, myself and everyone reading this thread KNOW you don't work for a media oulet. That is just your Delusions of Grandeur.

What I find ironic is some dolt linking to bleacher report and a "source", when infact, any schmoe/loser/pondscum can get a an account there and spin away.

I totally agree with J-ville's pshycoanalysis.

 

[O-town Gator]

"sports citizen reporting"? I guess that's what you are. The real sports reporters are bemoaning the grouping of the likes of you with them.

Real sports reporters who know what they're talking about don't want to be grouped in with the likes of bloggers and rumor-mongers.

 

[Yellowhammer]

J-Ville Gator, Are you a pre-psych student or just a want-to-be Shrink? What's with all the preoccupation with psychology?

It sounds to me like you may be having a few issues yourself, they call that "transference".

When I am giving an example of a reporter taking a story to his boss and HE thinks, if "I" take this story him he will bury it, I am speaking in hypotheticals.

As far as clinics near by, I am sure you keep a list of them... for yourself.

Your own comments scream of your own phycological worries, but your secret is safe with me.

 

[Yellowhammer]

MahxFahn, I always know when I have made my point when people start resorting to personal attacks. When you can't attack the message, attack the messenger.

I have heard all of this babble from you before and considering the source I see it as validation of my opinion.

Nobody wants to hear the truth about flaws in something that obviously your world revolves around and lashing out at the person holding up the mirror is perfectly normal.

You all know there is a discipline problem at Florida, and even though you may admit amongst yourselves, you would never admit to an outsider and that I understand that completely.

As for your distinction between "real sports reporters" and bloggers, I agree completely. It is the "real sports reporters" who are not telling the whole story about Florida's off the field problems.

Have a great day!

 

[O-town Gator]

As for your distinction between "real sports reporters" and bloggers, I agree completely. It is the "real sports reporters" who are not telling the whole story about Florida's off the field problems.

Why does a Bama fan, such as yourself, have such an obsession with Florida? I can understand the Tennessee fans coming over here to troll; they're just plain up to no good and make their motive clear.

And once again, WHY do you feel that the media needs to know every single event that takes place in the Florida football program? If you're expecting UF, or any other school for that matter, to maintain a policy of complete transparency and allow the media open-door access 24/7, you're expecting wrong.

I keep trying to tell you that there are matters that are taken care of within the staff itself - at least TWICE I've told you that - but apparently that's falling on deaf ears.

What more do you expect to hear? As I've said before, the "real sports reporters" aren't looking to stir the pot or stoop to the level of tabloid journalism one sees in the National Enquirer; they're there to report the news as it is with no bad intentions or manipulations of the facts.

Yes, I KNOW there's a discipline program at UF, and I've addressed that. I don't need a rival fan telling me something I already know - with me, you're preaching to the choir. There's a definite issue, and I have full faith in Coach Meyer that he'll be proactive in doing something about it once he's allowed contact with his players under current NCAA rules.

 

[O-town Gator]

A good point made by one of the posters over at Gator Country which makes sense:

Recap of Players Arrested Under Urban Meyer

-Only three arrests from the last three recruiting classes
-Charges were dropped in seven of the 24 cases
-14 of the 24 player arrests have been from players he did not recruit or were in his first recruiting class
-Three of the arrests that the media are counting were from players that were already dismissed at the time of arrest
-The 24 arrests represents 20 players
-Arrests by recruiting class
Six did not recruit
Eight in 2005
Seven in 2006
Two in 2007
One in 2008
None in 2009

Link to the thread (the entire post is on page 2 of the thread): http://www.gatorcountry.com/swampgas/showthread.php?t=109226&page=2

Kevin Brockway at the Gainesville Sun reiterates the same: http://brockblog.gainesville.com/default.asp?item=2386441

 

[J-ville Gator]

J-Ville Gator, Are you a pre-psych student or just a want-to-be Shrink? What's with all the preoccupation with psychology?

It sounds to me like you may be having a few issues yourself, they call that "transference".

When I am giving an example of a reporter taking a story to his boss and HE thinks, if "I" take this story him he will bury it, I am speaking in hypotheticals.

As far as clinics near by, I am sure you keep a list of them... for yourself.

Your own comments scream of your own phycological worries, but your secret is safe with me.

Another example of denial. You don't acknowledge you have a problem and fall into the denial phase.

Tell ya what Mr. internet magna cum laude, I'll gladly put my credentials up against yours. In fact, I'll give you my password and log in info. to the Alumni Directory or you can call Emerson Alumni Hall and verify.

Will you do the same?

 

[Yellowhammer]

O-Town gator, there is no obsession, it is just an obvious injustice and I wrote an article to point it out. Then I just responded to your comments.

Listen, it not my first time at the rodeo, the staff handling it is just code for cover-up. so don't give me a smoke screen as the solution to the problem.

You say you have full faith in Meyer to correct the problem, when do you think he plans on getting started?

 

[Yellowhammer]

-The 24 arrests represents 20 players
-Arrests by recruiting class
Six did not recruit
Eight in 2005
Seven in 2006
Two in 2007
One in 2008
None in 2009

All this tells me is that the players who have been under Meyer the longest are the ones getting in the most trouble?