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Thug U at it again

Discussion in 'Gator Football' started by Leakfan12, Aug 26, 2019.

  1. Leakfan12

    Leakfan12 VIP Member

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  2. DRU2012

    DRU2012 Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

    This really IS a "blast from the past". Time once was when this sort of thing not only was considered "normal", but so prevalent that things got to a point that it wasn't even reported anymore...
    Widespread attacks by roving bands of gold-chain-clad frat boys from "da Ewww!" on isolated Gator fans, young and old, in the dimly lit grey tunnels under the old Orange Bowl were faced and regularly reported by outraged victims who had had to come to accept this sort of thing, along with regular incidents of discovering damage to their vehicles upon returning to them after all the aforementioned challenges and confrontations in the OB itself.
    Indeed, it was after one particularly notorious visit to Coral Gables in the early 80s, after which literally dozens of separate incidents and complaints poured into various Gator administrative offices afterwards, these detailing slews of such attacks (ranging from potentialy dangerous "pranks" to violent physical confrontations: I and the car-full of friends who road down with me were in several tussles with bands of hyped up, alcohol-fueled Miami frat-boys under the stands during the game that day, and eventually returned to my car in a distant parking lot AFTER the game and found it, identified as one driven by a Gator only by the Alachua-county license plate and a single smallish "GATORS"-script sticker on its back bumper, now with its windshield smashed and all 4 tires slashed)--overall a pattern of what more and more seemed almost "institutionally-approved" bullying prompted the regents, at the next review and scheduling conference when it came up the following year, to cancel the traditional series entirely. Meetings between our two programs have been sparsely scheduled ever since.
    I HAD hoped maybe it had been enough time, and perhaps the general character of your "typical U-attendee" had changed enough for us all to "move on"--but it seems otherwise, sad to say.
    Upon further research and discussion, if that indeed still seems to be the case, we'll know by the time this one tentative upcoming "home-and-home" series coming up in 5 years--and in which case, I expect (and would support) our once more just saying "FUCK 'em!"--and revisit this issue in ANOTHER 40 YEARS or so!
     
  3. awebbf5

    awebbf5 VIP Member

    Wake me up when we put Emory in.
     
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  4. Escambia94

    Escambia94 Aerospace Cubicle Engineer (ACE) Moderator

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  5. Leakfan12

    Leakfan12 VIP Member

    I said we steal their turnover chain and TD rings.
     
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  6. DRU2012

    DRU2012 Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

    EXACTLY my thought at first reading.
    Any such violent, bullying behavior HAS to be reported officially and charges pressed--After all, despite what we see in movies and on TV, those of us who are trained in self-defense are NOT permitted to use even "equal force" to defend, let alone administer ANYTHING in the way of "punishment" there at the scene (and you can BET that the embarrassed bully(s) will themselves do so--it happened exactly that way to me, when younger: and of COURSE the THREE young "NOT-so-toughs" who'd been gleefully assaulting whomever they pleased around that bar before coming to a quiet young student drinking alone, myself, and had the tables TURNED on THEM, THEY brought charges, criminal AND civil, on ME--and showed up in court with mommy n daddy, lawyers and crutches and slings and the whole drama to paint a picture of THEMSELVES as the "victims"...ONLY the fact that they had pissed off so many folks already in that bar that night that MY attorney was able to contact and suppoena witnesses to appear at the hearing and contradict their testimony, were we able to get the whole thing dropped and the process reversed-- with the complainants subsequently, ultimately counter-charged and having to negotiate their way out of going to jail and/or having assault convictions on their records--so THIS one came out OK, but ONLY because of citizens ACTING upon their righteous anger and right to justice).
    Whatever the details surrounding such an incident, though the "average law-abiding citizen minding his or her own business" invariably just wants "PEACE", once this sort of "misbehavior" comes your way, it is now your "civic RESPONSIBILITY" to see that the miscreant(s) somehow ANSWER for the trouble they foment--and given the point I make above, unfortunately that usually will mean YOU GETTING INVOLVED, and (carefully, calmly, if it escalates IN SPITE OF YOUR REASONABLE TONE AND WARNINGS) having any person on the scene whose JOB is keeping the peace act to either cool things out or call "the authorities". A shame that it has come to that sooner and more easily these days--but given cell phones, social media, and the daily headlines we've all seen ad infinitum, "discretion is the better form of valor": Walk away, or get the cops.
    Or, as my first (civilian) cenci put it way back there my first day at Thai Quan Do: "Your first and best weapons are your voice to say "I'm sorry" and your legs to RUN AWAY!"
     
  7. DRU2012

    DRU2012 Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

    I'm TELLING ya:
    Back in the day, well, both us AND the FSU guys in particular would constantly either be planning, SCHEMING on the next prank we'd pull on their field logo, or flags or whatever, and/or still hurting from some effectively successful move THEY had managed to pull off dissing US...
    Like I say, with FSU it was always on the level of "mischievous pranks": We all came from the same high schools and neighborhoods around the state; big brothers went to one or the other school, or maybe your grades weren't quite good enough (don't know if it's still the case, but back in the 70's the minimum GPA was still ".5 higher" to get into UF over State. Of course we GATORS LOVED THAT!.
    But it was different with Miami: with the Miami boys there tended to be a dangerous, potentially violent edge to THEIR efforts...
    By the time I was at UF, both sides were having to be more "careful"; somehow: from our POV, what tended to be "fun" competing with the 'Noles had already devolved into dark, potential destructiveness somehow with the Canes, who by then were proudly, very publicly building their rep of "Thug U". That obnoxious "turnover chain" thing and all the rest is just a "latter day mos"--more of the same ol' thang.
     
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