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Official Game Thread 2023 Week 13: #4 FSU Seminoles at Florida Gators 11/25/2023

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Escambia94

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The 67th edition of the Sunshine Showdown will take place under the lights at Steve Spurrier Field at Ben Hill Griffin Stadium on November 25, 2023. Both teams will be starting backup quarterbacks after having season-ending injuries to both Graham Mertz and Travis Jordan last week. Special guest and Hall of Fame inductee Tim Tebow will be in attendance. The Gators are 37-27-2 all-time in a rivalry that dates back to 1958. The Gators lost last year after winning three consecutive games. The Noles are favored by 10.5 in the Swamp with an over/under of 50.5. FSU has an 81.6% chance of victory.
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FLORIDA OVERVIEW
The Gators are on a 4-game losing streak and are in desperate need of a win to gain bowl eligibility. To exacerbate the problem, the Gators will be starting Max Brown for the first time due to Graham Mertz's injury sustained in the 3rd quarter against Missouri. Ricky Pearsall needs 52 yards to eclipse 1,000 yards. The Gators have not had a 1,000-yard receiver since Taylor Jacobs had 1,088 yards and 8 TD in 2002. Carlos Perez was the number two receiver that year with 591 yards, and Kelvin Kight was number three with 511 yards.

Billy Napier is 11-13 (6-10) at Florida as he winds down his second season. Prior to his arrival at Florida, Napier was #11 in wins after going 51-25 (27-5 Sun Belt), trailing only Nick Saban, Kirby Smart, Dabo Swinney, Brian Kelly, Lincoln Riley, Luke Fickell, Jim Harbaugh, Ryan Day, Josh Heupel, and Kirk Ferentz.
DATEOPPONENTRESULTW-LHIGH PASSPASS RATHIGH RUSHHIGH REC
Thu, Aug 31@ 14 UtahL24-110-1 (0-0)Mertz 333137.0Etienne 25Pearsall 92
Sat, Sep 9vs McNeeseW49-71-1 (0-0)Mertz 193197.1Johnson Jr. 119Pearsall 123
Sat, Sep 16vs 11 TennesseeW29-162-1 (1-0)Mertz 166151.0Etienne 172Wilson III 44
Sat, Sep 23vs CharlotteW22-73-1 (1-0)Mertz 284200.6Johnson Jr. 63Pearsall 99
Sat, Sep 30@ KentuckyL33-143-2 (1-1)Mertz 244167.0Johnson Jr. 42Pearsall 62
Sat, Oct 7vs VanderbiltW38-144-2 (2-1)Mertz 254170.1Johnson Jr. 135Boardingham 99
Sat, Oct 14@ South CarolinaW41-395-2 (3-1)Mertz 423157.2Johnson Jr. 50Pearsall 166
Sat, Oct 28vs 1 Georgia *L43-205-3 (3-2)Mertz 230149.8Johnson Jr. 82Pearsall 99
Sat, Nov 4vs ArkansasL39-36 OT5-4 (3-3)Mertz 282141.9Etienne 80Wilson III 90
Sat, Nov 11@ 19 LSUL52-355-5 (3-4)Mertz 311145.9Etienne 99Pearsall 103
Sat, Nov 18@ 9 MissouriL33-315-6 (3-5)Mertz 183/ Brown 56161.8/ 174.1Johnson Jr. 85Pearsall 72
TOTAL326 PF - 307 PAMertz 2903 YD/ Brown 106 YDMertz 157.8 RAT/ Brown 157.5 RATEtienne 710/ Johnson Jr 710WR Pearsall 948/ WR Wilson 502/ TE Boardingham 289

FSU OVERVIEW
The Noles are undefeated and have a 45-24 victory over #5 LSU on their resume. FSU will be starting junior Tate Rodemaker of Valdosta, Georgia. Rodemaker has seen plenty of live action against Louisville '22 (6/10 109 YD 2 TD, 197.6 RAT), Florida '21 (1/2 7 YD, 0 TD), and some mop-up against Duke, NC State, Jacksonville State, and #12 Miami in '20 (17/29 130 YD, 0 TD 3 INT 75.6 RAT).

Mike Norvell is 29-16 (19-13) in his 4th season at FSU. He was 8-13 (6-10) in his first two years at FSU.
DATEOPPONENTRESULTW-LHIGH PASSPASS RATHIGH RUSHHIGH REC
Sun, Sep 3vs 5 LSU *W45-241-0 (0-0)Travis 342203.0Benson 47Coleman 122
Sat, Sep 9vs Southern MissW66-132-0 (0-0)Travis 175125.2Benson 79Coleman 48
Sat, Sep 16@ Boston CollegeW31-293-0 (1-0)Travis 222167.7Hill 42Wilson 105
Sat, Sep 23@ClemsonW31-24 OT4-0 (2-0)Travis 289140.2Benson 25Wilson 94
Sat, Oct 7vs Virginia TechW39-175-0 (3-0)Travis 170162.0Benson 200Wilson 54
Sat, Oct 14vs SyracuseW41-36-0 (4-0)Travis 284135.6Toafili 93Coleman 140
Sat, Oct 21vs 16 DukeW38-207-0 (5-0)Travis 268150.3Travis 62Wilson 58
Sat, Oct 28@ Wake ForestW41-168-0 (6-0)Travis 359177.3Benson 55Benson 100
Sat, Nov 4@ PittsburghW24-79-0 (7-0)Travis 360154.3Benson 97Douglas 115
Sat, Nov 11vs MiamiW27-2010-0 (8-0)Travis 265143.7Benson 80Wilson 82
Sat, Nov 18vs North AlabamaW58-1311-0 (8-0)Rodemaker 21794.1Campbell Jr. 78Bell 59
TOTAL441 PF - 186 PATravis 2,755 YD/ Rodemaker 376 YDTravis 154.5 RAT/ Rodemaker 219.6 RATBenson 743 YD/ Toafili 322 YD/ Hill 181 YDWR Coleman 615 YD/ WR Wilson 532 YD/ TE Bell 465 YD

COMPARISON
No need to stare at the statistics. The Gators are a horrible football team. This team is 4 plays away from being 7-5, but they are also 1 play away from being 4-7. All the models would have the Noles winning the Battle of the Backups by 10.5 and it is hard to debate that Vegas prediction. I predict a 14-27 loss for the Gators, which will mercifully save us from watching the Gators lose in a bowl game and will make my wife happy that she gets to pile onto the honey-do list a little earlier. Sigh. Somebody kick me.
FLAFSU
Total Offense#40 4677YD 6.23YPP 40TD 425.2YPG#17 4969YD 6.83YPP 53TD 451.7YPG
Total Defense#91 4363YD 6.67YPP 36TD 396.6YPG#24 3554YD 4.94YPP 22TD 323.1YPG
Strength of Schedule#4#50
Turnover Margin#97 4 FUMREC/ 3INT/ -4TOM#7 7FUMREC/ 8INT/ +10TOM
Missed Tackles104108
Penalties#86 71PEN 505YD#94 74PEN 706YD
 
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In general, the Gator side of the line of scrimmage is larger with the first team, but this has not translated into dominance in the trenches. 5 of the Gator first-team big men (OL, DL, and TEs) are transfers that Napier brought in, and 4 were recruited by Napier out of high school. Only 4 of the big men remain from Mullen's recruiting classes. Only 1 second-team big man remains from Mullen's era (Dante Zanders). Across both teams Florida has 19 big men heavier than 300 pounds; FSU has 9.
Team​
Position​
Player​
Class​
Ht​
Wt​
Florida
RT​
Damieon George Jr.​
2022​
TrSo. (2022)​
78​
361​
Florida
NT​
Cam Jackson​
2021​
TrJr. (2021)​
78​
360​
Florida
RG​
Micah Mazzccua​
2021​
TrJr. (2021)​
77​
337​
FSU​
RT​
Jeremiah Byers RS JR​
2020​
R-Jr. (2020)​
76​
325​
Florida
DT​
Caleb Banks​
2021​
TrR-So. (2021)​
78​
323​
FSU​
LT​
Robert Scott RS JR​
2020​
R-Jr. (2020)​
77​
313​
FSU​
RDT​
Joshua Farmer​
2021​
R-So. (2021)​
75​
311​
Florida
LG​
Richie Leonard IV​
2021​
Jr. (2021)​
74​
310​
FSU​
LG​
Casey Roddick RS SR​
2019​
R-Sr. (2019)​
76​
309​
FSU​
RG​
D’Mitri Emmanuel RS SR​
2019​
R-Sr. (2019)​
71​
309​
Florida
LT​
Austin Barber​
2021​
R-So. (2021)​
78​
305​
Florida
OC​
Kingsley Eguakun​
2020​
R-Jr. (2020)​
75​
302​
FSU​
LDT​
Braden Fiske​
2019​
R-Sr. (2019)​
77​
297​
FSU​
OC​
Maurice Smith RS JR​
2020​
R-Jr. (2020)​
73​
296​
Florida
DE​
Tyreak Sapp​
2022​
So. (2022)​
75​
275​
Florida
LTE​
Hayden Hansen​
2022​
R-Fr. (2022)​
78​
265​
FSU​
RDE​
Jared Verse​
2020​
R-Jr. (2020)​
76​
260​
Florida
JACK​
Princely Umanmielen​
2022​
So. (2022)​
77​
254​
Florida
RTE​
Arlis Boardingham​
2022​
R-Fr. (2022)​
75​
240​
FSU​
LDE​
Patrick Payton​
2021​
R-So. (2021)​
77​
239​
FSU​
LTE​
Kyle Morlock​
2020​
R-Jr. (2020)​
77​
239​
FSU​
RTE​
Jaheim Bell​
2020​
R-Jr. (2020)​
75​
239​
Florida
MIKE​
Scooby Wiliams​
2021​
R-So. (2021)​
74​
233​
Florida
WILL​
Mannie Nunnery​
2021​
TrJr. (2021)​
73​
231​
FSU​
MIKE​
Tatum Bethune​
2019​
R-Sr. (2019)​
71​
230​
FSU​
WILL​
Kalen DeLoach​
2019​
R-Sr. (2019)​
72​
220​
FSU​
BUCK​
Shyheim Brown​
2019​
R-Sr. (2019)​
70​
205​
 

Escambia94

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Today’s game will be important for recruiting. FSU is currently ahead of Florida in recruiting rankings by one spot. The following 2024 recruits will be on official visits for Florida. All are committed to Florida unless otherwise noted.

5* QB DJ Lagway
5* WR Jeremiah Smith (Ohio State)
5* DL LJ McCray
5* S Xavier Filsaime
4* WR TJ Abrams
4* WR Izaiah Williams
4* TE Amir Jackson
4* LB Myles Graham
4* DL Dealyn Evans (Texas A&M)
4* DL Kendall Jackson
4* LB Aaron Chiles
4* LB Adarius Hayes
4* CB Jameer Grimsley (Alabama)
4* CB Zavier Mincey (uncommitted)
4* CB Charles Lester III (FSU)
4* CB Jordan Pride
3* CB Teddy Foster
3* S Josiah Davis
3* ATH/S Gregory Smith III
3* RB Kahnen Daniels
3* OL Marcus Mascoll
3* JUCO DL Brien Taylor

Also on official visits will be 14 recruits from the class of 2025 and 8 from the class of 2026.
 
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Tuned in just in time to see us miss the fg on their FIRST drive...Nice drive but MORE points left on a field.
THIS 2nd drive going well too. In redzone..
Sacred. I cannot STABD the "Nole tomahawk refrain"!
Now ygry are blowing the nice drive.
End of 1st.
Two drives straight down foekd--and it looks like we'll be LUCKY to come away with e points fir sll of that.
We will pay for getting so little out of so much.
End of our season approaching in somewhat typical fashion.
 

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I AM glad to see abd hear TT's thoughts on this, a special night fir him here in The Swamp...
 

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I am getting all tense and worked up here in SPITE of myself...I told myself I WOULDN'T go there for this one.
I just can't HELP it: It is this rivalry, and all that is on the line tonight in particular.
We ARE plating our HEARTS out out there, though. I have my deep criticisms and fears about this team and program, and cannot shake the feeling of DOOM that surrounds thdn currently from what we've seen so far THIS year (especially the last 4 games!).
But this is probably the best we can manage.
 
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