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Week 3 Power Rankings

Escambia94

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RankTeamRating
1GEORGIA67
2ALABAMA66
3OHIO ST63
4MICHIGAN60
5UTAH55
6OKLAHOMA ST54
NOTRE DAME54
CINCINNATI54
9BAYLOR52
OKLAHOMA52
11CLEMSON51
12ARKANSAS50
IOWA ST50
TENNESSEE50
15KENTUCKY49
16TEXAS A&M48
PENN ST48
OLE MISS48
WISCONSIN48
20UCLA47
PITTSBURGH47
PURDUE47
TEXAS47
MINNESOTA47
NC STATE47
BYU47
27MICHIGAN ST46
KANSAS ST46
WAKE FOREST46
30SMU44
HOUSTON44
MIAMI44
33LSU43
MISSISSIPPI ST43
TEXAS TECH43
OREGON43
W KENTUCKY43
38AUBURN42
ARIZONA ST42
40APPALACHIAN ST41
AIR FORCE41
FLORIDA41
ILLINOIS41
LA LAFAYETTE41
IOWA41
WASHINGTON ST41
 

DRU2012

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I have no real grasp of how these "ratings" are arrived at, nor their relative meaning in judging standing among programs.
I don't mean this as criticism; I simply am completely without any context or understanding as to what they tell or what affects their "rise" or "fall".
All I can do is "WAIT AND SEE"--wait and see how we progress, how we PLAY AS A TEAM!
 

Escambia94

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I just track the different power rankings so I can look back at the end of the year and see where we went wrong. Each power ranking system is different. The one above is used for betting. In the past couple weeks I used the ESPN power rankings.
 

DRU2012

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I just track the different power rankings so I can look back at the end of the year and see where we went wrong. Each power ranking system is different. The one above is used for betting. In the past couple weeks I used the ESPN power rankings.
OOOHHH! It's "for BETTING purposes"...
That changes EVERYTHING: "Betting" ratings have little DIRECT relationship with who is ACTUALLY "better", but rather of course whatever it TAKES to attract bettors' money to the urgently LESS-favored competitor. The idea is to get the two "sides" (the amounts of money attracted to each prospective team in a given contest) as close to "even" as possible, in order to maximize the HOUSE'S guaranteed profit (the "house", or "book", can only come out "short" on a given contest if there is a lop-sided favorite who WINS).
Now I see that whether I understand or agree with said "rating" is irrelevant; only seeing its INTENT is important (or even fathomable, really, when a is said and done).
 

Escambia94

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OOOHHH! It's "for BETTING purposes"...
That changes EVERYTHING: "Betting" ratings have little DIRECT relationship with who is ACTUALLY "better", but rather of course whatever it TAKES to attract bettors' money to the urgently LESS-favored competitor. The idea is to get the two "sides" (the amounts of money attracted to each prospective team in a given contest) as close to "even" as possible, in order to maximize the HOUSE'S guaranteed profit (the "house", or "book", can only come out "short" on a given contest if there is a lop-sided favorite who WINS).
Now I see that whether I understand or agree with said "rating" is irrelevant; only seeing its INTENT is important (or even fathomable, really, when a is said and done).
This last one is for betting, and Vegas is usually right. The last two were ESPN’s predictive model. Nothing really changed with the ESPN power rankings this week.
 

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I have always been fascinated by the way such processes, by which an INDIRECTLY arrived-at number designed merely to attract bettors to one side or another of a "currently unbalanced betting line" turns out, at its closing point, to BE "usually right". Interesting to contemplate the actual forces at WORK there...
 

Escambia94

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I have always been fascinated by the way such processes, by which an INDIRECTLY arrived-at number designed merely to attract bettors to one side or another of a "currently unbalanced betting line" turns out, at its closing point, to BE "usually right". Interesting to contemplate the actual forces at WORK there...
Sort of. The betting ranking make it easier to bet on points. In this example Georgia is #1 and a bunch of other teams are #40, but the rating is what matters: 67 vs 40. Just subtract the two and give the home team 4 points and you get the line. You need other stats to determine the over/under, but only serious bettors and statisticians get into those numbers. On the other hand, the ESPN power rankings use a proprietary formula to rank the teams as a way to draw more views. The ESPN then uses FPI to predict the final ranking, among other things. The difference between both of those polls is that they really do not care about the results from last week or last year, which is the case with AP and Coach’s polls.
 

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(laughing)
Have you read/contemplated implications of "Quantum Theory" in all of this? It reminds me a bit of THAT--where seemingly "impossible-to-logically/physically-link" two separate "realities" or events nonetheless ARE somehow seemingly entangled in some obscure "cause-and-effect" relationship. The calculation of "probabilities" is among the most confusingly difficult of mathematics (at least so I have found) to apprehend to BEGIN with. So much of it is counter-intuitive!
And where does "the OBSERVER" stand in relation to "the OUTCOME" or "conclusion"?
What part does "uncertainty" (not to mention "SCHRODINGER", for cryin' out loud?!!) play in all of this?
Sorry--that's why it is probably best not to venture DOWN this "Black Hole"...(Also, by the way, along with "illogical", not to mention costly outcomes, that I stopped GAMBLING!). LoL
 

Escambia94

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(laughing)
Have you read/contemplated implications of "Quantum Theory" in all of this? It reminds me a bit of THAT--where seemingly "impossible-to-logically/physically-link" two separate "realities" or events nonetheless ARE somehow seemingly entangled in some obscure "cause-and-effect" relationship. The calculation of "probabilities" is among the most confusingly difficult of mathematics (at least so I have found) to apprehend to BEGIN with. So much of it is counter-intuitive!
And where does "the OBSERVER" stand in relation to "the OUTCOME" or "conclusion"?
What part does "uncertainty" (not to mention "SCHRODINGER", for cryin' out loud?!!) play in all of this?
Sorry--that's why it is probably best not to venture DOWN this "Black Hole"...(Also, by the way, along with "illogical", not to mention costly outcomes, that I stopped GAMBLING!). LoL
Fun fact: I study quantum physics.
 

DRU2012

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Fun fact: I study quantum physics.
...and here I was thinking maybe I had "stepped out of line" by going there--jokes and all.
So: What WOULD Schrodinger say in response?
"I'm not sure..."? (Ha ha ha)...or maybe, "Anyone see my cat?"
Sorry. I am looking for any way POSSIBLE to lighten my OWN mood, move on from what we just witnessed/ENDURED at home in The Swamp! Bad as the taste was in our mouths after last week's LOSS, personally the EXTENDED pain of tonight's "win" (small letters intentional) has left as bad or WORSE a taste in my mouth NOW.
 

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(I haven't officially "studied it" since I was an undergrad (when I would take certain classes just because I was INTERESTED in them--and once having registered for something, studied and read HARD, always tried to fully MASTER such subjects:
It is how I got the most OUT of college, and so appreciated the quality of the professors at University of Florida. It's ALSO how I ultimately ended up with both advanced Arts and Sciences degrees...
I still "study" it on my own, and pursue the latest advances in the field--so much easier to do nowadays online! I am NOT so strong on the math, but I follow enough of it to grasp and follow the larger "gross concepts and latest theories"...
 
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