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Gators opened as 10 point underdog vs Tennessee

Escambia94

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The Vegas line will probably settle down at -9.0, but for now the Gators are double-digit underdogs on the road. The Gators are 2-7 since 1990 when they are double-digit underdogs. They have been the DD underdog to LSU 4 times (2-2), FSU twice (0-2), and once each against Alabama, South Carolina, and Miami.
  • 1992: @ FSU (+17.0, L 24-45)
  • 2000: @ FSU (+11.5, L 7-30)
  • 2003: @ Miami (+14.0, L 33-38)
  • 2003: @ LSU (+10.0, W 19-7)
  • 2011: @ LSU (+14.5, L 11-41)
  • 2013: @ USCe (+14.5, L 14-19)
  • 2014: @ Bama (+15.5, L 21-42)
  • 2016: @ LSU (+14.0, W 16-10)
  • 2019: @ LSU (+14.5, L 28-42)
  • 2022: @ UT (+10.0?, ?)

The Gators are 5-4 against the spread, 2-7 straight up. Notice that the Gators were never double digit road underdogs under Urban Meyer.
 

Leakfan12

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I'm not liking the Gators' chances especially barely beating USF and now going on to the road against a team that could surprise people until Georgia smacks them to reality.
 

DRU2012

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I'm not liking the Gators' chances especially barely beating USF and now going on to the road against a team that could surprise people until Georgia smacks them to reality.
I think you have ALL of it just about right across-the-board here Lf. These Vols are currently further along in THEIR "rebuild/recovery/return" than WE are;
I ALSO think that in the larger picture even THIS, their apparent progress thus far, is somewhat illusory: They WILL be cut down savagely to size before long, by Georgia LATEST--and it will not just reveal their "false progress" but send them reeling BACK DOWN into the floundering failure that has typically more characterized their recent history.
As I say, OUR eventual restoration under Billy, once it actually comes, will be DONE RIGHT--And WE ARE doing things the RIGHT WAY somehow under his leadership and guidance this time.
Our meager progress thus FAR wasn't producing much in the WAY of encouraging progress or relief it seemed to ME, at any rate.
For now, our "LONGTERM progress" had for a number of reasons not gained much in the way of traction or PROGRESS as of yet--and I realized, just KNEW that the early going was not yet going to yield much real success for us.
That WILL come--but not til LATER, WHEN much effort and sacrifice will eventually INDEED produce the results we long for, I believe.
UNTIL THEN, we can but do "the little things", fight the GOOD FIGHT as best we can as we see our way clear to DO so!
For the moment, that may not seem like much--nowhere NEAR "ENOUGH"--but our "moments" ARE coming...THAT much I AM sure of somehow.
GO GATORS!
WE. WON'T. BACK. DOWN.
 

Escambia94

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The FPI for Florida has slowly plummeted each week, which means we will be 3-5 point road underdogs to aTm and FSU.
 

DRU2012

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The FPI for Florida has slowly plummeted each week, which means we will be 3-5 point road underdogs to aTm and FSU.
I'm thinking that at the rate we are "plummeting" in the impression I have of us MYSELF, I am pretty well resigned to armoring that "self" with a growing acceptance of our overall weakness and resulting decline throughout the rest of this season...
That being the case, I find that at THIS point at least the idea that we will likely fall to aTm in College Station doesn't bother me somehow as much as one that had us wrapping things up with a loss to those blow-hards at Doak. Here's hoping that, bad as things are and may GET, this last isn't NECESSARILY "written in stone".
This is a different sort of team under Billy and his staff than the ones we've endured under a succession of Head Coaches who in retrospect have presided over a.general series of declining standards and stability in every area for more than a decade now. Things are a bit of a mess now, and aren't going to be suddenly, miraculously "FIXED" as we go on the road and move into the heart of an SEC schedule.
We will LOSE some games. But we will also learn, grow and improve, we WILL NOT GIVE UP ("Won't back DOWN"!), and we will WIN some games too--perhaps even some as the underdogs that we are now increasingly FORECAST to LOSE.
We may INDEED end up with a record that reflects uneven play, at times even a certain seeming overall mediocrity--but by the end I expect us to be a different team, with "promise and high expectation" going into NEXT year!
 

Escambia94

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I will be at the aTm game. Florida needs to win. The Gators have only lost one game with me in attendance—2010 versus Dan Mullen’s Mississippi State Bulldogs.
 

DRU2012

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I tend to BELIEVE in that sort of thing (as must be clear by now).
Now, back when this schedule was first revealed and I SAW that aTm game, I THOUGHT it might be a good one form ME to mark off as well--a chance to see our Gators (and a good chance I thought THEN to see us WIN--against a program and COACH I didn't LIKE, to boot...).
Times, changes (coaches, players and all the REST) have come and gone and THAT trip, along with all the hopes and dreams invested in and/or ATTACHED to it have long since faded, vanished into the thin air at the top of the SEC and indeed the CFB Elite WE are no longer a part of.
The chance to see (and possibly PARTY with) not just the TEAM but fellow Gator FANS (above all of course my "GE Brothers") will just have to wait until another opportunity but with UT coming to the SEC, well, there look to be more and even BETTER (or at least "easier") "opportunities". We all just gotta hang in, stick AROUND, you follow?
For now, glad ONE of us will be there at the minimum...My attendance LAST season at a number of the "Austin UF Alumni Group's" GATOR WATCH PARTIES (at their new venue in Del Valle's "Oktoberfest Beer and Barbeque") showed how MANY GATOR fans there REALLY ARE "Deep In the HEART" of Longhorn country, in fact in TEXAS FAR AND WIDE.
Did you happen to request seats among the inevitable patch of UF TRAVELING FANS?!!
THEY (the folks at Kyle Field) no doubt will have tucked you with a poor angle down in one of the endzone corners (that was always the tactic when I used to travel with friends and rabid Gators to places like Doak and The Orange Bowl back in the day. HOWEVER, while "The 12th Man" is loud and enthusiastic, I have found them friendly, and reportedly hospitable in such situations. You may get teased good-naturedly, but not ATTACKED, a la Miami fans.
You will likely have a decent time regardless--though the most important part of all, the actual outcome, may not cooperate I'm afraid.
I sure hope the season ahead turns out differently than it seems it is shaping up to be.
I doubly, tripelly (or do I REALLY mean "trippily"?), hell, QUADRUPELLY hope your "NEAR-perfect-record" HOLDS, and we WIN this one somehow!
Somehow, my CURRENT such "fantasy" has us all finally meeting at an SEC Championship--or better yet, somehow us vs UT (soon to be "the OTHER UT"?) somewhere here in TEXAS?
Whatever Whenever However.
RIGHT?
 

DRU2012

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However, the. ESPN team on College Football Tonight just announced that College GameDay will be in Knoxville Saturday for this one...
Despite the attention (that I know in the long run tends to HELP programs out on the recruiting trail, where there is no denying or escaping that prospects are well aware of such things), in truth this is one time it makes me uncomfortable:
Ours is a young team that has, if anything, been ill-served by preceding regimes' mishandling of their emotional balance and related self-discipline; more recently, despite the Coaches' efforts to temper the importance of outside attention, it appears that they have been affected adversely by the hype, it appears to me anyway.
All in all, this seems one more factor working to the Vols' advantage rather than ours right now.
Personally I don't know what to expect out there. We come in 10-point underdogs, and frankly we deserve that number in this case.
However, it is also true that IF...
(1) We get some guys back (Miller, for one--but on both sides of the ball),
(2) AR gets his head, heart and ARM straight (I'm not worried about his legs...but I do wish the staff would let him USE them:
"TURN HIM LOOSE!!!"),
(3) That same staff, from Coach on down, needs to let the whole offense exploit its strengths more fully than they have shown last 2 weeks.
Above all they must come in with a coherent offensive game plan, designed and prepared to assert ITS will on the Volunteer defense.
And preferably this week it should be US that more proactively adapts at the half to whatever wrinkles and surprises they spring on us from the start (Again, on BOTH sides of the ball).
Only in the above ways can I see us pulling a huge surprise on THEM.
 

Leakfan12

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Didn't lose by that but still a loss. I Hope Richardson's performance carries over (besides the turnovers and accuracy could be better).
 

DRU2012

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I hope he has the brains and CHARACTER to stay another season...And WE (as an organization) have enough of the same to propose and arrange a reasonable and viably attractive enough way to make it happen.
And pretty well ignore the kind of ignorant blind emotionalism of most "screaming fans".
 

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(I don't know WHAT to make of the above two statistical points...What do Y'ALL make of them?)
 

Escambia94

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(I don't know WHAT to make of the above two statistical points...What do Y'ALL make of them?)
Most teams do not win on the road as double-digit underdogs. Florida has done it twice--both against LSU. Most teams that are double digit road underdogs get blown out by at least 10 points. Florida has kept the game closer than the spread on 5 occasions. The summary is that historically it is not a good idea to bet against the Gators if you are betting the line, where there is more money to be made. What that means to fans who do not bet is that we should expect losses as DDRUs, but we generally keep it close and go down fighting. Florida did go down fighting against Tennessee. What this means for 2022 is that in year 1 of a rebuild, the Gators nearly upset a more established program that is in year 2. What this means for 2023 is that Tennessee might be in for a fight in the Swamp.
 

DRU2012

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Most teams do not win on the road as double-digit underdogs. Florida has done it twice--both against LSU. Most teams that are double digit road underdogs get blown out by at least 10 points. Florida has kept the game closer than the spread on 5 occasions. The summary is that historically it is not a good idea to bet against the Gators if you are betting the line, where there is more money to be made. What that means to fans who do not bet is that we should expect losses as DDRUs, but we generally keep it close and go down fighting. Florida did go down fighting against Tennessee. What this means for 2022 is that in year 1 of a rebuild, the Gators nearly upset a more established program that is in year 2. What this means for 2023 is that Tennessee might be in for a fight in the Swamp.
I see what you mean...and that IS what an objective view of the Tennessee game did appear to support.
EVERY game so far shows a young, early-in-its-"rebuild" Gator squad fighting hard, showing both flaws and inconsistencies on the one hand, but raw talent, determination and improvement on the other.
Depending on what happens at quarterback, I like our continued devopment (and opportunity at continued upward surge) NEXT season.
 

condolawyer

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The Vegas line will probably settle down at -9.0, but for now the Gators are double-digit underdogs on the road. The Gators are 2-7 since 1990 when they are double-digit underdogs. They have been the DD underdog to LSU 4 times (2-2), FSU twice (0-2), and once each against Alabama, South Carolina, and Miami.
  • 1992: @ FSU (+17.0, L 24-45)
  • 2000: @ FSU (+11.5, L 7-30)
  • 2003: @ Miami (+14.0, L 33-38)
  • 2003: @ LSU (+10.0, W 19-7)
  • 2011: @ LSU (+14.5, L 11-41)
  • 2013: @ USCe (+14.5, L 14-19)
  • 2014: @ Bama (+15.5, L 21-42)
  • 2016: @ LSU (+14.0, W 16-10)
  • 2019: @ LSU (+14.5, L 28-42)
  • 2022: @ UT (+10.0?, ?)

The Gators are 5-4 against the spread, 2-7 straight up. Notice that the Gators were never double digit road underdogs under Urban Meyer. You guys smart in math became engineers, accountants, MBA, Medical etc. I went Poly Sci...
Remember the spread is only based on the collective bets so the house keeps the Vig and only pays one side. Nothing more, nothing less. Straight betting is what you win if the team wins, and is adjusted accordingly. LOL, meant to post the last line above in my comment; how it got there I don't know. Not a computer science major either. freshman year at U of I Campaign-Urbana was punch card programming...
 

DRU2012

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Remember the spread is only based on the collective bets so the house keeps the Vig and only pays one side. Nothing more, nothing less. Straight betting is what you win if the team wins, and is adjusted accordingly. LOL, meant to post the last line above in my comment; how it got there I don't know. Not a computer science major either. freshman year at U of I Campaign-Urbana was punch card programming...
I have made similar points along the way in this same ongoing discussion here.
As for your undergrad computer-programming experiences (they didn't call it "coding" yet when I was at UF either), they had US learning "FORTRAN", as I recall. I taught myself "Basic" for FUN when my wife bought it for me (for Christmas, no less) a few years later, to learn and "play with" on my IBM-compatible, "super-advanced" desktop computer with the "Intel 386" and "VGA"-cards installed.
 

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