Re the first part, I don't care what Bianchi or anyone else has to say about it, from where I'm standing the most The Liar gets is a cumulative "wash"--for all he gave us in terms of success (and that first crop of coaches he brought in, Chris Leak and above all TT get at least as much of a share on THAT side of the equation), the whole '09 Championship come-up-short by his prima donnas, his own drama-queen performance, then the sequence of lies and sleazy maneuvers at the very end, complete with plunge-to mediocrity and leaving the cupboard bare on his way out the door (and please recall that feigning health and stress issues, from his continued presence in a choice Gator Athletic Dept. office he was awarded by Foley AFTER resigning, he meanwhile negotiated his move to and contract with OSU--and used his position, UF phones and recruiting lists to contact and woo as many of our top recruits he thought he had a shot at for his team-to-be), I feel I am being generous and MORE than fair calling it "even", after all.@DRU2012 Pat Dooley has a nice article on why we should forgive Urban Meyer and move on. Mike Bianchi has a nice article that says "thank you Urban and Shelley Meyer, you are welcome to visit when we put Meyer in the Ring of Honor, but Urban is still a douche".
@miltongator I see conflicting reports. If it turns out to be true, then I will be happy.
Back on topic: I only predict 12-15 in this class, but some recruiting services predict about 20. Hopefully they know something I do not.
With you on the second part, though.