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Week 13: #6 Florida 34, Kentucky Wildcats 10 - 11/28/2020

Escambia94

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From the time Mullen chewed out Grantham to the end of the game, Kentucky scored 0 points and gained 44 yards. Before that the Wildcats gained almost 180 yards. The Gator offense scored 20 unanswered points, missed one field goal, and shut down their own offense. Mullen will go conservative from time to time, which frustrated fans but it gets him the victories.
 

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Hey @Escambia94 and @DRU2012 Hoped you guys had a great Thanksgiving. Saw the first quarter before leaving. Closer than I would like but I'll take it because a win is a win. Watching the LSU-Texas A&M.
Me too...and same back at ya, bra’!
Thing is, like I say, when we play the way we played from late in the first half on, and ESPECIALLY the way ALL THREE SQUADS (O, D and SPECIAL Teams) played in that second half, I really can see us matching up with ANYONE...And in general, what I saw from most of the OTHER teams this weekend did NOT greatly impress me either.
Like I say: Even the admittedly “elite” programs shouldn’t necessarily intimidate us if we really ARE evolving into that “COMPLETE GATOR TEAM: 2020 Edition”, as it potentially hits its stride here down the stretch. We’re not there YET—and don’t necessarily WANT to be, full time, for another coupla weeks yet...
Hey, check out a replay of today’s game, if you can: You’ll see what I mean...AND you’ll ALSO see that “conflict on the sidelines” (Mullens angrily dressing down Grantham late in the 2nd qrtr, and the DC giving it back—but only when our Head Coach seemed to finish and begin to walk away each time; it’s really interesting, as is the wider context of Mullens’ answers to the inevitable questions about all this at the postgame presser!)...Watch the game replay, then seek out earlier this afternoon’s postgame presser on YouTube (as I talk about all this near to end of our “Gameday”-thread earlier)...
I’m sure there’ll be MORE detail emerging in Monday’s presser too.
In a weird way, though there was much to BE “concerned about” (AGAIN!) in today’s play against a clearly inferior team (minus SO many players), while it’s true I too found myself frustrated and sweating it out after a quarter or so again—but when we get together and “PUT it together” in a determined and efficient manner, well, we very quickly begin to (FINALLY) look like “one of THOSE
‘ELITE TEAMS’ as WELL” after all!
Have a great night. Talk to ya soon.
 

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PS
I think we’d handle A&M pretty easily now, especially at a neutral site...minus that 4th qrtr fumble I think we’d have beaten them THEN, no qualification necessary—and at THIS point I’m pretty damn sure of it. We certainly have it IN us!
So all this talk about how “great” THEY are now misses the larger picture view; The fact still remains, if we just keep growing as we have and appear on course to CONTINUE doing, we WILL win out and have a chance to render that one loss moot.
Gotta get and STAY healthy—keep winning, improving...Fact is, we don’t KNOW what our “TRUE POTENTIAL” might be—only that we MIGHT keep IMPROVING!
But we DON’T have all the fully-developed tools and circumstances yet to simply overwhelm whomever we face. We MUST prepare thoroughly, adapt accordingly, and rise above the inevitable surprises and unexpected obstacles each step of the way—and somehow just KEEP ON BREAKING THROUGH, WINNING through to victory. This could all suddenly be OVER—OR prove to be a “magic year of glory” after all!
 

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Speaking of “being competive” (and NOT necessarily being particularly impressed with A&M—or ANYONE ELSE this weekend, by the way), the TRUTH is that going by this LSU vs TAMU game just ending, I can’t really tell right this moment WHAT we should take from the performances of EITHER of these teams: Is A&M’s D so good? Or LSU’s O so weak? And so on...
With so many similar dilemmas presented by the weekend’s gameplay AND seeming results, it’s probably best to just switch over to the SEC Network and beyond to the various highlight shows—if only to BEGIN to get an idea, if not of “what’s REAL”, then at least how “the experts” weigh what’s happened ON THE FIELD!!!
Of course, that could just end up pissing us OFF more than anything else!
Oh well, that’s what we’ve got this site for, right??! (LOL...)
 

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(...and Aggies’ Mond ain’t HALF the QB Kyle Trask is. There is NO WAY they OR their respective offensive squads can be compared. A&M is a fairly BALANCED team, will give them that—but I gotta believe the CFB Playoff Committee recognizes the difference, just as the Heisman folks likewise see the difference between Kyle Trask and most of the other QBs (although surmounting the “BUZZ” around the kid from Clemsen since LAST YEAR), and Alabama’s Jones just ‘cause he IS the QB at ALABAMA, together remain a tough DOUBLE MOUNTAIN TO CLIMB!
In BOTH cases, it all remains in front of us: Again, “Just win, baby!” (Sorry! But that line just perfectly addresses both the problem AND the solution!)
 

Escambia94

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Final thoughts:
  • The Gators have two very winnable games left to conclude the season, and even if one of these games were canceled due to COVID they have enough body of work to warrant high consideration in the CFP or a bowl game.
  • Florida is surely going to have a few players considered for highly coveted awards:
    • Heisman: Kyle Trask is in the top 3; Kyle Pitts is in the top 10
    • Maxwell
    • Walter Camp
    • Davey O'Brien
    • Mackey: Kyle Pitts is the front-runner
    • Groza: Evan McPherson is in the top 3
    • Paul Hurnung: Kadarius Toney warrants consideration
  • Trask has 34 TD passes this season, which moves him past 2007 Heisman winner Tim Tebow and a tie for 3rd (Rex Grossman 1996) behind Danny Wuerffel (39 in 1996 and 35 in 1995)--and he is doing it in fewer games against SEC-only. Right now he is right at #100 all-time for season TD passes.
    • 36 TD would move him into a 14-way tie at #92 all-time and #2 at UF all-time
    • 37 TD would move him into a 21-way tie at #71 all-time
    • 38 TD would move him into a 14-way tie at #57 all-time
    • 39 TD would move him into a 10-way tie at #47 all-time
    • 40 TD would move him into a 5-way tie at #42 all-time and #1 at UF all-time
    • 41 TD would move him into a 6-way tie at #36 all-time and #1 at UF all-time
    • 42 TD would move him into a 4-way tie at #32 all-time
    • 43 TD would move him into a 5-way tie at #27 all-time and a 2-way tie for #3 SEC all-time
    • 44 TD would move him into a 4-way tie at #23 all-time and a 2-way tie for #2 SEC all-time
    • 45 TD would move him into a 3-way tie at #20 all-time and 15 behind #1 FBS and SEC all-time
  • Trask is in the top 10 in multiple categories of the University of Florida record books. Here is where he ranks by category:
    • #10 5,913 passing yards (1,201 yards behind Doug Johnson 1996-1999; 1,293 yards behind Wayne Peace; 1,636 yards behind John Reaves; 1,672 yards behind Kerwin Bell)
    • #10 446 completions
    • #11 649 attempts
    • #1 68.7% completions (more than 200 attempts; #2 all QBs more than 150 attempts)
    • #2 9.1 yards per attempt
    • #1 172.7 career passer rating (more than 200 attempts)
    • #1 196.8 season passer rating
  • Trask is in the top 10 in multiple categories for the season:
    • # 3 yards per game
      1. Dillon Gabriel UCF 372.6 YD
      2. Myles Brennan LSU 370.7 YD
      3. Kyle Trask FLA 351.3 YD
      4. Matt Corral MISS 343.0
      5. Mac Jones BAMA 341.0
    • #5 passer rating
      1. Kaleb Eleby WMICH 4 G 212.6
      2. Mac Jones BAMA 8 G 208.0
      3. Zach Wilson BYU 9 G 203.5
      4. Justin Fields OHIOST 4 G 202.1
      5. Kyle Trask FLA 8 G 196.8
    • #1 TD
      1. Kyle Trask FLA 34 TD
      2. Dillon Gabriel UCF 30 TD
      3. Zach Wilson BYU 25 TD
      4. Matt Corral MISS 24 TD
      5. Sam Howell UNC 24 TD
      6. Brady White MEM 24 TD
 

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I thought that LSU-A&M game was going to be a shootout. Not so much. Did LSU D improve or did A&M struggle?
At the very least, I’m thinking that all in all, THEY showed that at this point they have plateaued: That was and is about where they’re at and who they are...
In contrast, WE showed that although still uneven, we are still evolving/improving—still in the process of possibly BECOMING the “COMPLETE TEAM” we showed we have the talent, will and (hopefully) momentum to carry forward in successful fashion.
In short, never MIND the “head-to-head”; time has passed, further experience and evidence have produced further facts...At this point, whatever was the case back before “the Covid break” when we lost to them (and it remains arguable whether that proved they were the better team even then),
WE ARE THE BETTER TEAM NOW.
I am pretty damn sure that as long as we remain hungry and keep approaching PREPARATION for the remaining scheduled games in serious manner AND continue to improve as we have, we WILL win-out. Then it will come f D own to whether we can and DO put our best AND “most complete” game together against Alabama in ATLANTA.
 

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Final thoughts:
  • The Gators have two very winnable games left to conclude the season, and even if one of these games were canceled due to COVID they have enough body of work to warrant high consideration in the CFP or a bowl game.
  • Florida is surely going to have a few players considered for highly coveted awards:
    • Heisman: Kyle Trask is in the top 3; Kyle Pitts is in the top 10
    • Maxwell
    • Walter Camp
    • Davey O'Brien
    • Mackey: Kyle Pitts is the front-runner
    • Groza: Evan McPherson is in the top 3
    • Paul Hurnung: Kadarius Toney warrants consideration
  • Trask has 34 TD passes this season, which moves him past 2007 Heisman winner Tim Tebow and a tie for 3rd (Rex Grossman 1996) behind Danny Wuerffel (39 in 1996 and 35 in 1995)--and he is doing it in fewer games against SEC-only. Right now he is right at #100 all-time for season TD passes.
    • 36 TD would move him into a 14-way tie at #92 all-time and #2 at UF all-time
    • 37 TD would move him into a 21-way tie at #71 all-time
    • 38 TD would move him into a 14-way tie at #57 all-time
    • 39 TD would move him into a 10-way tie at #47 all-time
    • 40 TD would move him into a 5-way tie at #42 all-time and #1 at UF all-time
    • 41 TD would move him into a 6-way tie at #36 all-time and #1 at UF all-time
    • 42 TD would move him into a 4-way tie at #32 all-time
    • 43 TD would move him into a 5-way tie at #27 all-time and a 2-way tie for #3 SEC all-time
    • 44 TD would move him into a 4-way tie at #23 all-time and a 2-way tie for #2 SEC all-time
    • 45 TD would move him into a 3-way tie at #20 all-time and 15 behind #1 FBS and SEC all-time
  • Trask is in the top 10 in multiple categories of the University of Florida record books. Here is where he ranks by category:
    • #10 5,913 passing yards (1,201 yards behind Doug Johnson 1996-1999; 1,293 yards behind Wayne Peace; 1,636 yards behind John Reaves; 1,672 yards behind Kerwin Bell)
    • #10 446 completions
    • #11 649 attempts
    • #1 68.7% completions (more than 200 attempts; #2 all QBs more than 150 attempts)
    • #2 9.1 yards per attempt
    • #1 172.7 career passer rating (more than 200 attempts)
    • #1 196.8 season passer rating
  • Trask is in the top 10 in multiple categories for the season:
    • # 3 yards per game
      1. Dillon Gabriel UCF 372.6 YD
      2. Myles Brennan LSU 370.7 YD
      3. Kyle Trask FLA 351.3 YD
      4. Matt Corral MISS 343.0
      5. Mac Jones BAMA 341.0
    • #5 passer rating
      1. Kaleb Eleby WMICH 4 G 212.6
      2. Mac Jones BAMA 8 G 208.0
      3. Zach Wilson BYU 9 G 203.5
      4. Justin Fields OHIOST 4 G 202.1
      5. Kyle Trask FLA 8 G 196.8
    • #1 TD
      1. Kyle Trask FLA 34 TD
      2. Dillon Gabriel UCF 30 TD
      3. Zach Wilson BYU 25 TD
      4. Matt Corral MISS 24 TD
      5. Sam Howell UNC 24 TD
      6. Brady White MEM 24 TD
All you lay out there has solid merit:
For the most part, “The Case” has already been well-made.
However, ideally we would play and WIN these last TWO scheduled games
—then go in and BEAT THE TIDE in the SEC Championship, leaving no doubt nor debate about “who deserves what”!
“Master of the Obvious”, right?
But after seeing that performance from about 90seconds left in the 2nd qrtr ON, I really think we showed “what we COULD be”. Yes, that was against a short-handed UK team that the TIDE had just torn apart the previous week—but I STILL think that in our own way we showed ourselves and everyone ELSE that our toughest “competition” right now is OURSELVES.
The talent is there. It is possible that only WE can stop us: the obstacles to our own potential “greatness” may well be within us—us alone. It’s a “TEAM SPORT”, and this “team” shows signs of COMING TOGETHER at exactly the right time.
In 2008 we had TT to “push the button”, make that “PROMISE” at just the right moment. If Coach Mullens can push the right buttons now, and our team continues to respond, perhaps we have a chance to RISE ABOVE... “ARRIVE”, ahead of schedule!
 

Escambia94

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All you lay out there has solid merit:
For the most part, “The Case” has already been well-made.
However, ideally we would play and WIN these last TWO scheduled games
—then go in and BEAT THE TIDE in the SEC Championship, leaving no doubt nor debate about “who deserves what”!
“Master of the Obvious”, right?
But after seeing that performance from about 90seconds left in the 2nd qrtr ON, I really think we showed “what we COULD be”. Yes, that was against a short-handed UK team that the TIDE had just torn apart the previous week—but I STILL think that in our own way we showed ourselves and everyone ELSE that our toughest “competition” right now is OURSELVES.
The talent is there. It is possible that only WE can stop us: the obstacles to our own potential “greatness” may well be within us—us alone. It’s a “TEAM SPORT”, and this “team” shows signs of COMING TOGETHER at exactly the right time.
In 2008 we had TT to “push the button”, make that “PROMISE” at just the right moment. If Coach Mullens can push the right buttons now, and our team continues to respond, perhaps we have a chance to RISE ABOVE... “ARRIVE”, ahead of schedule!

There is a difference between the coach motivating players and fellow players motivating players. Kyle Trask is not Tim Tebow. In terms of vocal leadership, the closest the Gators had since Tebow graduated was Feleipe Franks. This team will succeed or fail in a very different way from the Tebow teams. As a matter of fact, this team will succeed or fail in a very different way from the Urban Meyer teams that Dan Mullen was part of. Mullen does not coach the same way as Meyer.
 

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There is a difference between the coach motivating players and fellow players motivating players. Kyle Trask is not Tim Tebow. In terms of vocal leadership, the closest the Gators had since Tebow graduated was Feleipe Franks. This team will succeed or fail in a very different way from the Tebow teams. As a matter of fact, this team will succeed or fail in a very different way from the Urban Meyer teams that Dan Mullen was part of. Mullen does not coach the same way as Meyer.

Agreed, Meyer was Meyer and Tebow was Tebow. Mullen and Trask are their own guys.
 

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There is a difference between the coach motivating players and fellow players motivating players. Kyle Trask is not Tim Tebow. In terms of vocal leadership, the closest the Gators had since Tebow graduated was Feleipe Franks. This team will succeed or fail in a very different way from the Tebow teams. As a matter of fact, this team will succeed or fail in a very different way from the Urban Meyer teams that Dan Mullen was part of. Mullen does not coach the same way as Meyer.
Can’t argue with you there.
It’s EXACTLY why I made that implicit distinction...But like it or not,
(1) It sure seems this group NEEDED some proper “motivating”—if only just to truly begin to come together as a TEAM, and (2) You’re right: Trask, while a “leader” on the field, a true “field general” in terms of his talent and performance—in-game, clearly, is where he lets his PLAY do his “leading”; on and OFF the field he tends to be quiet, humble, low key...
If someone were going to do any “emotional button pushing” on this team, at this time, considering what is required (the “pulling together” and “standing with and FOR each other”, all three squads that COMPRISE a football TEAM), who else in this particular case was that going to be BUT Dan Mullens??!
Emotion is ALWAYS a part of “success or failure” in college football. Isn’t that a big part of why we love it?
Sure is for ME! It’s a major part of how and why I lost interest in the pro game (but I won’t dwell on all that here and now)...Suffice it to say: We have a special and complex attachment and loyalty TO this institution, one we all share with the young men who play for them/US—and (we HOPE) the men brought in to Coach, at least to SOME extent.
The degree to which that “wears thin” or proves to carry on after their tenure here is up, has a bearing not just on how we continue to feel about them, but I believe to a great extent reflects on how successful they are or were when they were here!
My point here and now is that I think we can at least agree that Dan Mullens is fully invested in and committed TO “BEING a Florida Gator”!
WE feel it; his players feel it too. And one of the things that is becoming all the more clear about our Head Coach is that in addition to being a very good Coach, he knows and CARES about his guys. In the EMOTIONS on Saturday, in the “College Game”, THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE.
For us, it appears to be “making a difference” NOW.
I don’t know if it will be enough.
It’s just one factor in a SEA of variables that comprise, at best, “a process”:
Even if we keep ON “improving”, will we get “ENOUGH BETTER” by the time we face Alabama to BEAT THEM? Will we, CAN we be “the better team on that field, on that day”?
I don’t know.
That’s exactly why our Coach is exactly RIGHT in making sure he sets the example he does, in every public appearance now and postgame pressers, when he insists as much as possible even NOW in not looking past “the NEXT game” and IT’S challenges, the proud SEC team that is bent on maintaining its OWN pride and tradition.
As things stand, we gotta go up to Knoxville this coming Saturday and whip a Vols team that at this point has had its whole season (and sense of themselves) narrowed down to their performance in and outcome of this next game.
This IS in effect their “bowl game”.
By all accounts it will be “wintry weather”—not exactly an “advantage” for US! And with the late-afternoon start, it will be getting colder as the game goes on. From every “emotional” AND “practical” standpoint, this would be a good time for our QB and the offense to put a big score up in a fairly lopsided WIN—and exactly the wrong circumstances for it, or so it would seem.
Personally, I will be satisfied with a commanding victory—a balanced and composed effort, beginning to end.
We are the better team. The same is true for the final scheduled game against LSU. Let’s see how THOSE ones go; like our Coach, THEN I will be more inclined to evaluate our chances against the Tide.
As much as “proper emotional preparation” THEN, the degree to which he can truly limit his players’ looking ahead while still preparing for these last couple of regular season games will be just as crucial to our performance IN those games as our likely success or failure when CHAMPIONSHIP WEEK in fact actually COMES!
 

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I thought that LSU-A&M game was going to be a shootout. Not so much. Did LSU D improve or did A&M struggle?
That’s the big question, isn’t it?
Hard to say: “Bit of both!” is probably the safest response.
But the same, the question AND the answer, could be asked in many cases—including some of our OWN recent games—although overall I had the general impression that WE had control and were eminently capable of knuckling down and simply beating the other team AT ANY TIME: It was within our power to focus, adapt and pull away after absorbing their best, scripted shot!
We DO seem to get around to it, at SOME point, no?
If that continues to expand—happen with confident certainty earlier and more thoroughly in each of these last couple of games, obviously that is our hope.
Ideally then we’d “peak”, and get to see us put together a “full effort”, beginning-to-end by the SEC Championship.
Clearly what concerns us ALL is the impression THAT’S WHAT IT WILL TAKE TO WIN THAT GAME!
(It’s ALSO exactly WHY our Coach deflects most tendency to look ahead: He is trying to see us PACE ourselves, continue to improve, and ideally “hit our stride” as we enter “the home stretch” and if possible reach our potential when we most need it.
Sorry: Once again I am falling back on cliches—but also again: “They’re cliches simply because they are so apt and TRUE!”)
 

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