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Why I agree with Coach Muschamp's Offense

I know some fans hate it. But honestly I like this offense by Coach Boom. The point of this offense is to score about 24 - 35 points a game, and do so in a TOP fashion. This offense works well with the defense that we have.

I think what we have to realize, is that as long as Tyler and the O grows, they will get more chances to do things down the field; but the reality of the situation is that the defense gives our O enough chances, and this time we have a QB who can capitalize on those chances.

#BrentPease #GoGators #GoGatorOffense
 

DRU2012

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I do not care what kind of offense it is, as long as it wins.
Trouble is, we ARE capable of looking ahead, and seeing where this edition, though an improvement over last year's, still can (and likely will again) get us beat from time to time--and I'm sorry, but with our SEC and national aspirations/expectations, by definition that's just not quite "good enough".
(To every GE "regular": Insert your own ideas of what needs to be "tightened up", "opened up", etc., here--and don't say you think we're already "there"!)
 

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Trouble is, we ARE capable of looking ahead, and seeing where this edition, though an improvement over last year's, still can (and likely will again) get us beat from time to time--and I'm sorry, but with our SEC and national aspirations/expectations, by definition that's just not quite "good enough".
(To every GE "regular": Insert your own ideas of what needs to be "tightened up", "opened up", etc., here--and don't say you think we're already "there"!)
Maybe. We get our first real test with the new QB and resurrected WRs this weekend.
 

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@Escambia94, et al
Just stirring things up a bit--ts'what I do...
(but I usually start with what I believe is a valid POV; if I'm "devil's advocate", then I assume Satan is asking sharp, if disturbing, questions about our Gator offense)
(Hey--I'm KIDDING)
 

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I think the bottomline, "Emporer Has No Clothes!" observation comes from @miltongator, :
In the final analysis (and it was gnawing at me before today's game), is that this offense, and hence pretty well the better part of all of these games (even the wins, 'cause we let even inferior teams hang around while that offense bumbles, stumbles, and fumbles it's way around the field), IS JUST "NO FUN TO WATCH".
 

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Like I said, I do not care what kind of offense we have as long as we win. We did not win, so I now care what kind of offense we run. Step 1: protect the QB.
 

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Let's face it, this isn't OBC's offense or Urb's offense before that BC guy took over. I miss those offenses but they (and we) have to make do. I know Mizzou's D isn't that good of a D, so there's that (I'm hoping).
 

miltongator

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Seems like every time they blitzed us, we didn't pick it up and our QB ends up running for his life. Hmmmmmm, is that lack of talent on the O line or coaching?
 

Ga8or22

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One thing I noticed (which I'm sure everyone did) was LSU stacked the box on 1st and 2nd down knowing we always run mostly on those plays. On 3rd down they wold bring a blitz that somehow our OL has no idea whats going on. I put this on the OL coach and the Oline. There is no reason is hell we can't figure out that we need to run other plays besides running it ALL THE DAMN TIME and put Murphy in a tough spot on 3rd down. Murphy has more then proven that when you give him time he can find the right man. I don't know if this is Pease/Muschamp trying to "protect" Murphy or what but it needs to change till we get the right Oline!
 

miltongator

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It pains me to say it, but if you want to see how an offense should work, just go down the road to FSU. Their receivers can run the right routes and catch the ball. Their O line can actually block. I'm afraid we will be taken to the woodshed later this year. Just sayin'.
 

Ufgatorfan

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Muschamp needs to let Pease open the offense up period!!! Thinking we can score 9-21 points a game and win with our defense is crap. That will not work with a decent offense, (Miami, and now LSU) . I just don't understand why our offense is so bland nor do I understand why we get a player hurt every game. Again like a have posted in my previous posts, it seems our players are soft. I think cause we squeaked by last year with an 11-2 record, WM thinks we can do the same this year. His "blue collar " football team , which is what he reminds us every week is what he wants is not working. Missouri, FSU, SC, and Georgia will beat us with this kind of mentality. They all have solid QB's and receivers who can catch the ball. Their defense is a mute point cause our offense so bland I believe a high school team could give us trouble. Until he lets our OC open it up I see bad things ahead of us this year. Let's not forget the fact we try to get top WR and all the see is dive play after dive play. If I'm a top WR I'm staying away from Florida till they prove they can be a more balanced offense.
 

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Muschamp needs to let Pease open the offense up period!!! Thinking we can score 9-21 points a game and win with our defense is crap. That will not work with a decent offense, (Miami, and now LSU) . I just don't understand why our offense is so bland nor do I understand why we get a player hurt every game. Again like a have posted in my previous posts, it seems our players are soft. I think cause we squeaked by last year with an 11-2 record, WM thinks we can do the same this year. His "blue collar " football team , which is what he reminds us every week is what he wants is not working. Missouri, FSU, SC, and Georgia will beat us with this kind of mentality. They all have solid QB's and receivers who can catch the ball. Their defense is a mute point cause our offense so bland I believe a high school team could give us trouble. Until he lets our OC open it up I see bad things ahead of us this year. Let's not forget the fact we try to get top WR and all the see is dive play after dive play. If I'm a top WR I'm staying away from Florida till they prove they can be a more balanced offense.
You're right--we only win when we do 'cause the D IS SO GOOD, as everyone knows--which he has every right to be proud of, but WILL: "There's this thing called offense, and it accounts for every bit of a "Championship"-caliber team's success as your defense does!" I didn't want to believe it, but it's starting to seem that our current Head Coach has the same kind of blind spot to the importance of the offense as SS used to have to the kicking game and killer-D--but even Spurrier knew it was a big enough part of the game that he'd best get someone who knew and understood defense, and turned that part of the game (which he had little interest in anyway) over to him--and it was no coincidence that the year he had Bob STOOPS in that role was the one he brought home his one National Championship! There begins to appear there is perhaps some "fatal flaw" in Muschamp's make-up, some underlying stubborn streak/control freak thing that just is inflexible on a number of related issues having to do with his ideas about how HE wants to win, an idea of "football perfection" that ignores things like "what fans enjoy" and "what actually works in the real world of College Football"--and maybe our OC is still there BECAUSE he doesn't change or vary his efforts to give Muschamp exactly what he insists he wants that offense to keep trying to do and be. If that's the case, we're already looking at "the best this team's gonna be", and we WON'T improve on it until someone else comes in, takes his defense and adds a real "big boys' offense" to it.
(Again, I'm starting to wonder, can Will Muschamp adapt and change, learn and grow, and take that next step, or is this just a personality flaw, one where he'll ultimately find himself watching someone else take this program the rest of the way back to glory and long term success? Got a feeling J. Foley may well be thinking that too.)
 

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Muschamp needs to let Pease open the offense up period!!! Thinking we can score 9-21 points a game and win with our defense is crap. That will not work with a decent offense, (Miami, and now LSU) . I just don't understand why our offense is so bland nor do I understand why we get a player hurt every game. Again like a have posted in my previous posts, it seems our players are soft. I think cause we squeaked by last year with an 11-2 record, WM thinks we can do the same this year. His "blue collar " football team , which is what he reminds us every week is what he wants is not working. Missouri, FSU, SC, and Georgia will beat us with this kind of mentality. They all have solid QB's and receivers who can catch the ball. Their defense is a mute point cause our offense so bland I believe a high school team could give us trouble. Until he lets our OC open it up I see bad things ahead of us this year. Let's not forget the fact we try to get top WR and all the see is dive play after dive play. If I'm a top WR I'm staying away from Florida till they prove they can be a more balanced offense.

Well Mizzou lost their QB.
 

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Like I said, I do not care what kind of offense we have as long as we win. We did not win, so I now care what kind of offense we run. Step 1: protect the QB.
C'mon, E-: I KNOW you know better than that. It shouldn't have had to come to this for anyone, least of all YOU, to come around. The wheels have come off, even by those low-expectation-driven standards. I know you could see, like all of us, the inevitability of our losing to the better SEC teams based just ON those "wins" you refer to, ones against inferior teams we let hang around, and STILL barely outscored late. We're FLORIDA. We don't party blindly at sloppy, poorly called and played victories against teams we should blow out, our heads in the sand regarding all the things staring us in the face that will soon GET us beat! We're not here just to "win a few games, thank God!", not even "just to win our share"!!! We should have, COULD have gone undefeated last year--with practically no offense! That was both a promise and a warning--and somehow to this staff it was neither: I have seen little effort in either strategy OR tactics (as reflected in the playbook or on the field, respectively) to meaningfully change that offense in 2013. What improvements I've seen have been the result of changes in personnel--changes the result of chance and necessity, things like injury and the right guy ready to step in and step up. We can "discuss" what is best DONE about all that, but not whether something needs to be done--should have long since BEEN done, and for which by now there is little excuse: Or do we just go along with whatever they tell us, even if it amounts to swallowing "mediocrity-with-an-explanation/excuse"?
If I sound angry, it's because I AM--with good reason! We've been treated as outsiders, and our questions brushed off as if not worthy of even acknowledging, let alone explaining why we were somehow wrong. Now our worst fears are realized, and it's to be MOS--"more of the same"? No. I acknowledge, and re-affirm my support for Muschamp's overall Team Philosophy, and the fine defense he has built and brought to bear, capable of beating, punishing, anyone. However: That's only PART of what makes a juggernaut, a true Champion. To make good on the reason he came here, on his promise to us and himself to build just that kind of "winner", he must make good on his specific promise not just to build that great D, not just to make the whole team TOUGH (both of which he HAS to a great extent realized), but also to bring in "that guy", that premiere young "offensive mind" that will build for him AND us the kind of tough and dominant scoring machine that will properly complement everything else that is being accomplished in Gainesville. We don't have that person, and (no surprise) we don't have anything LIKE that kind of offense even beginning to manifest on our team. We're missing some pieces (one issue among many), yes, but there's enough talent here now to accomplish a WHOLE lot more than we've shown. When it comes to summing up that offense and the staff that is responsible for it, words like "bland", "waste", and "underachievement" come to mind.
 

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I had to give Coach Muschamp the benefit of the doubt. Now I am walking over to the side that doubts the future of Gator football under Muschamp and his restrained offense with Pease.
 

Ga8or22

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I had to give Coach Muschamp the benefit of the doubt. Now I am walking over to the side that doubts the future of Gator football under Muschamp and his restrained offense with Pease.

Muschamp needs to be restricted to Defense. Let an offensive mind do its work and stop hampering and interfering. Pease is a proven quantity but currently he is being held back.
 

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